Did collectors show up to purchase all the turkey and trimmings they could handle? Today Topps revealed the print run for 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Thanksgiving online set. For the first time in months the set consisted of both GPKs and Wacky Packages. Collectors decided that didn’t matter as much, and still showed up for the holiday set. The set sold a total of 188 copies. While being much less than it’s Halloween counterpart, it’s still a lot higher than previous awards related online sets. Look for Topps to continue the holiday theme later in Dec. with a Christmas themed set.
Topps Launches 2017 GPK Thanksgiving Online Set
As the holidays approach, Topps is continuing with its tradition of online holiday sets. Today Topps launched 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Thanksgiving online set. After spitting the brands for the past few months, Topps decided to return to offering GPK and Wacky Packages together. The set consists of 15 cards, 5 New GPK pieces (a/b versions) and 5 Wacky Packages. Artwork in the set was created by artists Brent Engstrom, David Gross, Neil Camera, Joe McWilliams, Robert Jimenez, and JungHwa Im. The set is available for $34.99. There is no bundle discount available this time. Shipping is free in the US, or $10 internationally. The cards are available on Topps.com for 7 Days. Topps will reveal the print run at the end of the sale. Here is the checklist and pictures of the cards.
- 1a: SAMMY SNOOD/1b: DIRK Dangler – Artist: Brent Engstrom
- 2a: ANDY Corn/2b: Corny CANDICE – Artist David Gross
- 3a: Turkey CAL/3b: Hapless HUNTER – Artist: Neil Camera
- 4a: Basting BART/4b: Leggy LENNY – Artist: Smokin Joe McWilliams
- 5a: GARY Gravy/5b: Poured POLLY – Artist: Robert Jimenez
- 6. Butterbrawl – Artist: Smokin Joe McWilliams
- 7. McSnoremick Turky Gravy – Artist: David Gross
- 8. Bruised Yams – Artist: Brent Engstrom
- 9. Lippy’s Punk In Pie Mix – Artist: Smokin Joe McWilliams
- 10. Turkey Taffy – Artist: JungHwa Im
Topps Reveals Print Run for 2017 GPK Halloween Set
Topps was in a revealing mood today as they have now caught up on Print Run reveals for all their online sets. Today Topps revealed the print run for 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Halloween online set. The 20 card set was based on characters from popular horror movies. The artwork proved to be right in the line with what collectors were looking for. Despite the larger set and higher price point, the set sold 272 copies. Those numbers are higher than any other online set in months. GPK collectors have shown that if the artwork and content are good they will spend the money.
Topps Reveals Print Run for 2017 GPK Fall Comic Convention Set
Almost a month after the set was sold online Topps finally released the print run for 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Fall Comic Convention online set. The 12 card set was sold during the week of this year’s New York Comic Con. The set ended up doing much better than previous online sets, even beating the GPK Classic set. The final print run for the whole set was announced as 187 copies sold. GPK collectors have shown over the years that cards based on comic characters are popular.
Topps Launches 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Halloween Online Set
On the day when all the monsters come out of hiding, Topps didn’t forget about the grossest ones of all. Today Topps launched 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Halloween online set. This 20 card set consists of 10 new pieces of artwork and with a/b versions. Artist David Gross painted eight cards, while Brent Engstrom did the other two. The set is available for $49.99 There is also a three set bundle available for $99.99. Topps has since removed the option to purchase multiple sets at a discount. Shipping is free in the US, while international shipping is $10. The set will be available on topps.com for 7 days. Topps will reveal the print run at the end of the sale. Here is the checklist and the available pictures of the cards.
- 1a: FRYE Day (Artist: Gross)
- 1b: Jovial JASON
- 2a: Reanimate TOR (Artist: Gross)
- 2b: Hacked HERBERT
- 3a: THEO Thing (Artist: Gross)
- 3b: KURT Ruffled
- 4a: EVIE Dead (Artist: Gross)
- 4b: ANNIE of Darkness
- 5a: GILES Play (Artist: Gross)
- 5b: Yucky CHUCKY
- 6a: CHET Semetary (Artist: Gross)
- 6b: Gory GAGE
- 7a: BENNY Wise (Artist: Engstrom)
- 7b: TIM Fury
- 8a: Fiery FREDDY (Artist: Engstrom)
- 8b: Roasted ROBERT
- 9a: They LIV (Artist: Gross)
- 9b: FOSTER Imposter
- 10a: Day of the ED (Artist: Gross)
- 10b: Gory GEORGE
How Many 2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Cards Were Produced? Part 2
This is Part 2 of a two part series on the production of 2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands. If you missed Part 1 you can go here to catch up.
In the first post we looked at how many packs/boxes/cases were produced of 2017S2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands. Here’s a review of what we came up with.
- Total Production – 441,000 Packs
- Collector – 41,000 Collector Packs or 1700 Collector Boxes or 213 Collector Cases
- Retail/Hobby – 400,000 Retail/Hobby Packs
I’ll be using these numbers to try to come up with an idea how many of each type of parallel and insert were created for the set. This will give you a good idea how rare a set is and how quickly you need to snap up that card for your rainbow! I’ll also compare some of this info to the previous sets for reference. As a reminder, in addition to using the sell sheet and odds, we will also have to make some assumptions and flat out guesses when trying to figure some of these out.
So how many of each type of card was made? We can’t figured it out for every type of insert or parallel. Some card types we don’t have enough information. Other times however, Topps is nice enough to tell us exactly how many of a card was produced. Like previous sets, Topps has continued to number many card types. This means we already know most of the parallel and insert numbers already! Makes this post a lot easier! We know Spit /99, Bloody /75, and Fool’s Gold /50 for the parallels, and Patches /50 and Autos /25 for the insert sets!
Still there are some things we just can’t determine. Topps has made it tough on us in recent releases. They no longer share a lot of information on the sell sheets for insertion numbers. This means we can not figure out each different retail pack type. Therefore, there are many retail items that we are unable to determine the production on. For example, the Yellow Phlegm borders. Since there is no way to break out the number of gravity feed packs from the other retail packs, we can not determine how many Phlegm borders were made. This also true for the various retail bonus sets; Classic Rock (Jumbo Insert Set), Gross Bears, and Bathroom Buddies. However, with production being slightly down compared to Adam-Geddon, you should see similar numbers of those this series. The lack of retail breakdown also means we can not determine how many Loaded Sketches or Panoramic Sketches were inserted into packs.
Let’s discuss what we can figure out.
While we can’t figure out the Yellow Phlegm parallel, we can determine how many of the other two non-numbered parallels were made. We can also find out how many of the Concert Posters & Album Covers bonus inserts were made.
- Bruised Borders – 41,000 Collector packs X 1 Odds (doh) = 41,000 total Bruised borders / 180 cards in set = 227 per card.
- Puke Borders – 400,000 Retail packs X 1 Odds (doh) = 400,000 total Puke borders / 180 cards in set = 2,222 per card.
- Concert Posters & Album Covers – 41,000 Collector packs / 24 Odds = 1700 total cards / 10 in set = 170 of each card made.
How do these numbers compare to the previous set, Adam-Geddon? Since there was 5,000 more Collector packs this time the total amount of Bruised parallels is higher. Conversely, with retail being down slightly the number of Puke parallels dropped just a bit. Finally, the Collector only bonus insert set of Concert Posters & Album Covers is also up due to the additional Collector pack production.
One thing I always find interesting is to determine what pack types the printing plates and artist autographs are hiding? Retail always has the majority of the plates because over 80% of the production is retail. We know Topps inserted 360 plates into the production, so here is the breakdown of how many can be found in each pack type.
- Collector Plates – 41,000 packs / 1206 odds = 34 plates in Collector packs
- Retail/Hobby Plates – 400,000 packs / 1234 odds = 324 plates in Retail packs
- Collector Autos – 41,000 packs / 192 odds = 214 autos in Collector packs
- Retail/Hobby Autos – 400,000 packs / 192 odds = 2083 in Retail/Hobby packs
A couple of interesting things to point on on the Plate and Autograph distribution. We can also use this number to corroborate our total pack numbers. Using our pack numbers with the odds comes out to 358 total plates inserted, thats really close to the 360 we know they put in packs. Using the pack numbers with Autograph odds we get a total of 2,297. We know there are 2,250 inserted into packs. Again pretty darn close. This is another reason why I’m confident in the total pack numbers. The other interesting thing I noticed is even though Collector production is up, the same number of plates and autos are in Collector packs as Adam-Geddon. This explains why the odds are a little bit harder than the last series for those two card types.
Topps has continued their practice of not revealing how many total sketches of each type are inserted into packs. While we can’t figure out all sketch types, there is a few we can determine based on odds.
Shaped Sketches – 41,000 Collector packs / 79 odds = 518 Shaped Sketches in Collector packs.
Regular Sketches – 400,000 Retail/Hobby packs / 261 odds = 1532 Regular Sketches in Retail/Hobby packs
Dial Artist Panoramic – 41,000 Collector packs / 395 odds = 103 Dual Artist Panoramic Sketches in Collector packs.
The number of sketches is up compared to the last series. The reason for this could be the large increase in sketch artists compared to Adam-Geddon. So far there are 49 confirmed sketch artists for Battle of the Bands. Therefore, the odds are a little easier this time around for pulling a sketch card.
The production numbers of Battle of the Bands show interest in Garbage Pail Kids remains consistent throughout 2017. How the next set, We Hate the 80’s, turns out will be interesting.
Finally, can we figure out how many base cards were produced? Not really, but we can use what we know and give it our best guess! We know Collector packs have 6 base cards per pack now, except for packs containing patches, but that number is so small we will go with 6. Retail/Hobby packs 7 base cards per pack this time around, except for packs containing gold dust, autos, sketches, and plates, but again that number is so small I’m going to go with 7 per pack.
Base Cards – (41,000 Collector packs X 6 cards per pack) + (400,000 Retail/Hobby packs X 7 cards per pack) = 3,046,000 Total Base Cards produced / 180 cards per set = 16,922 Total of each base card.
While that’s a ton, its down just slightly compared to Adam-Geddon. Time to get your groove on, and pick up a set of 2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands!
This is Part 2 of a two part series on the production of 2017 GPK Adam-Geddon. If you missed Part 1 you can go here to catch up.
How Many 2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Cards Were Produced? Part 1
This is Part 1 of a two part series on the production of 2017 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands. To read Part 2 click here.
Topps started out 2017 with a retail Garbage Pail Kids set that was well received by collectors. Collectors enjoyed both the art and gags of the Adam-Geddon set. Then Topps took a long 9 month break before the next retail set. The last 9 months were filled with various online exclusives. Collectors however, tired of the daily presidential cards, and Topps discontinued those in early summer. Topps kept up with regular small online sets in the remaining months, celebrating awards shows and holidays. Topps took a different direction with the second set of 2017. This time doing a set based entirely on musical acts. Would this new theme affect production? Or does the long 9 month absence make a GPK collector’s heart grow fonder? I’m going to attempt to answer those questions in a two part series on GPK Battle of the Bands production. And I’m going to try to do it despite Topps printing incorrect odds on the packages. The easy part? Topps stuck with nearly the same exact format as Adam-Geddon. The hard part? Topps doesn’t make it easy and has shared less and less info with each passing set. Let’s do some math!
First my disclaimer! Production numbers are never an exact science, and Topps makes it tough on us. In order to attempt to solve this riddle we need to look very closely at the clues in both the odds and the sell sheets. Some things to keep in mind for this post. 1) Topps doesn’t want the public to know exactly how much of each card was made. Why? No idea really, I think its dumb, but historically Topps only provides enough information to get close. 2) We need to make some assumptions. Those assumptions will be based on the clues we have, but still some guessing has to happen. 3) The odds never quite seem to come out completely equal. However we can round and get pretty close to how much was produced. 4) Topps changes what is printed from what the sell sheet says all the time. This will throw off all our numbers. 5) Keep in mind Topps historically holds back 5% of the print run to cover missing hits, damaged cards, and their No Purchase Necessary program. These numbers would include that 5%. With all that in mind let’s get started…(Warning lots of math coming up. If you don’t want to read about the process, skip to the bottom for the answer sheet!)
To start we need to determine how many packs were made for the entire print run. In order to do that we need a card type where all the odds are exactly the same in Collector and Retail/Hobby packs. This time around there are actually two types of cards this works for, Fools Gold borders and Artist Autographs. Which is great, so we can double check our numbers. Let’s look at the Gold borders first. The odds state that Gold borders fall at 1:98 packs.
Wait just a second….1:98?!? That’s about double of the last set! Did Topps really produce twice the amount of cards for Battle of the Bands? The answer is, no. As you will see throughout this article, I believe Topps has overstated all the odds on the parallels by double. (GPKNews has contacted Topps for comment on the incorrect odds, but Topps has not responded to that request.) How do I know? Three reasons, and they support each other. 1) The numbers don’t match up. The odds appear to be correct for all other card types like patches, sketches, etc. You can’t have parallel odds be double, and all the other inserts be half. 2) Every break from my personal experience and speaking to collectors large and small show the parallels are falling a twice the stated rate. 3) There is no way Topps doubled production, there isn’t the support for that many cards. Therefore, throughout this article and Part 2, I will be cutting the odds in half to do my calculations.
Let’s try this again, the real life odds for Gold borders is 1:49 packs. There are 180 base cards in the set, and Gold borders are /50 on the backs. Therefore, 180 cards X 50 number of golds per card = 9000 total Gold borders X 49 odds = 441,000 total packs made for release. The number of packs is very close to last series.
Are we sure about 441,000 packs being correct? Let’s check, this time using Artist Autographs. Because autos aren’t a parallel card, the stated odds on the packs appear to be correct. There are 90 different autos in the set X 25 autos per card = 2250 total autos in the print run X 192 odds – 432,000. That is really close to the number we are up with using Gold borders. So why is it different? Its Topps, who knows! Really though I’ve noticed Topps rounds the odds, so the real odds might be slightly higher or lower. One other note on total packs. After changing things up for Adam-Geddon, Topps has returned to Jumbo Retail pack odds being exactly 1/2 of a retail pack. This makes our calculations a lot easier. Just keep in mind that Jumbo packs count as 2 regular packs within our totals. I’m going to use 441,000 as our number going forward. Its going to make the calculations easier, and gives Topps the benefit of the doubt on production.
Next we need to try to figure out how many of each pack type was created for the set. Collector packs are always easier to figure out because they have the cards that are exclusive to the set. We need card types that are only in Collector packs, and we know already how many were made. Once again there are three types, Patches, Bloody Red borders, and Spit Blue borders. Here’s what the math looks like on those:
- Patch Cards – 20 cards in set X 50 made per card = 1000 total patches x 41 odds = 41,000 Collector packs made
- Bloody Red borders – 180 cards in set X 75 made per card = 13,500 total Red borders X 3 odds = 40,5000 Collector packs made
- Spit Blue borders – 180 cards in set X 99 made per card = 17,820 total Blue borders X 2 odds = 35,640 Collector packs made
As we can see the numbers for Patch cards and Red borders are really close. However, the Blue borders seem to be off a bit. Why is that? Remember, I mentioned above that Topps rounds the odds on the packs. When it comes to Red borders collectors are pulling exactly 8 per box which is 1:3. Blue borders however are seeing 11 per box for most boxes. That makes the real odds slightly higher than 1:2, and the pack total would therefore be higher. I am confident in using 41,000 as the number for total Collector packs produced.
How about other pack types? Once again Hobby boxes are nonexistent, and exist in name only. Starting with Adam-Geddon Topps has made Hobby boxes the same as Regular Retail boxes. There are no longer any marks on the packs or boxes that distinguish a Hobby box vs. a Retail box. Also, the odds are exactly the same. Since all cards types are the same there is no way to tell how many Hobby/Retail boxes were produced. Sadly the same holds true for retail packs. In order to determine how many different types of retail packs were made, we would need a card type that is only in one type of retail pack, and we know how many were made. The only cards types that are individual to retail packs are Loaded Sketches and Panoramic Sketches. Topps no longer releases how many sketches are inserted into each pack type. So just like with Adam-Geddon the rest of our discussion will combine all Hobby/Retail pack types into one number. Keep in mind a Jumbo Retail packs counts as 2 packs in our numbers.
We know there are 41,000 Collector packs. How many Retail/Hobby packs to we have? 441,000 total packs – 41,000 Collector packs = 400,000 Retail/Hobby packs. That sounds like a whole lot of packs, but in reality, Battle of the Bands is the lowest produced GPK set in the last two years.
Here’s what I believe the total production numbers to be for Adam-Geddon:
- Total Production – 441,000 Packs
- Collector – 41,000 Collector Packs or about 1700 Hobby Boxes or about 213 Collector Cases
- Retail/Hobby – 400,000 Retail/Hobby Packs
(Once again my numbers could be off. We had to make some assumptions, trust the sell sheet, all while ignoring the printed odds. But I’m confident these numbers are really close.)
So what does this all mean? Production is down compared to the previous set, Adam-Geddon. However, the numbers are really close to what was produced with the Adam-Geddon set. In looking at the numbers, production of Collector boxes is actually up, while retail is down. Take a look at the last four sets and the production numbers:
- Total Pack Production
- Apple Pie – 484,000
- Trashy TV – 638,000
- Adam-Geddon – 459,000
- Battle of the Bands – 441,000 (4% decrease in total overall production vs. Adam-Geddon)
- Collector Pack Production
- Apple Pie – 36,500
- Trashy TV – 35,000
- Adam-Geddon – 36,000
- Battle of the Bands – 41,000 (12% increase vs. Adam-Geddon)
- Retail Pack Production
- Apple Pie – 408,500
- Trashy TV – 550,000
- Adam-Geddon (Includes Hobby packs) – 423,000
- Battle of the Bands (Includes Hobby packs) – 400,000 (6% decrease vs. Adam-Geddon)
Topps prints to order their product. Which means based on distributor pre-orders, Topps decides how much product to produce. The numbers show for the most part this set was printed in very similar quantities as Adam-Geddon. Collectors continue to gravitate to purchasing Collector boxes. More than likely collectors have stop purchasing “Hobby” boxes, since they have figured out now they are the same as Retail. In sticking to the same formula you will see similar results in Part 2 to Adam-Geddon. I expect Topps to stick to this formula for the first set of 2018, We Hate the 80’s.
All fun stuff to think about as you bust into those new packs! Let me know your thoughts on the numbers in the comments!
This is Part 1 of a two part series on the production of 2017S2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands. In Part 2 we will look at production numbers for all parallel and insert sets. To read Part 2 click here.
2017 Series 2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands Explained
It’s been nine months since the last GPK retail release. 2017S1 GPK Adam-Geddon was well received from collectors, who enjoyed a lot of the artwork and end of the world type of gags. Topps has now launched 2017 Series 2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands. This set is all about musical acts past and present. Topps is following almost the exact formula they used with 2017S1 Adam-Geddon, right down to the parallels and pack contents. The base set once again features 180 cards, broken down into 7 subsets based on musical genres. As has been the case for the last few years, the base cards lack card back artwork, sticker die-cuts, checklists, and numbering in on the back. You will notice the odds on the parallels are twice as high as previous sets. I believe Topps has overstated the odds. Based on box breaks parallels are falling at 1/2 rate of the stated odds. (GPKNews has reached out to Topps for comment, but as of this writing Topps has yet to respond.) I will have articles taking a stab at production numbers in a few days. To see the official Topps checklist click here. Here is what you can find, and where you can find it in 2017 Series 2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands.
(Note: I will continue to update this post as new information comes to light and any new parallels/inserts are found.)
- Base Set – 180 total cards made up of 7 different subsets.
- Pop Stickers (21a/b – 42 Total Cards)
- Classic Rock Stickers (20a/b – 40 Total Cards)
- Hard Rock Stickers (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- Metal Stickers (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- New Wave & Punk Stickers (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- Alternative Stickers (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- Rap and R&B Stickers (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- Parallel Sets – Same exact cards from the Base set, except with a different speckled color border.
- Bruised Border (Dark Blue/Black) – 1:1 – Collector (180 Cards)
- Spit Border (Light Blue) /99 – 1:5 – Collector (180 Cards)
- Bloody Nose Border (Red) /75 – 1:6 – Collector (180 Cards)
- Fool’s Gold Border (Gold) /50 – 1:98 – Retail/Hobby/Collector (180 Cards)
- Puke Border (Green) – 1:1 – Retail/Hobby (180 Cards)
- Phlegm Border (Yellow) – 1:8 – Target Retail Gravity Feed (180 Cards)
- Printing Plates – 1:1206 Collector, 1:1235 Blaster, 1:1234 Hobby/Retail/Gravity, 1:610 Retail Jumbo (360 Total Plates – 4 per card artwork)
- Insert Sets – All the various insert subsets that can be found in packs.
- GPK Album Covers & Concert Posters – 1:24 – Collector (10 Cards)
- Classic Rock Stickers – 2 Per Jumbo Retail (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- Gross Bears – 3 Per SE Blaster Box (16-20,L4 – 6 Total Cards)
- Bathroom Buddies – 3 Per EA Blaster Box (10-12a/b – 6 Total Cards)
- Patch Card /50 – 1:41 – Collector (10a/b – 20 Total Cards)
- Artist Autograph /25 – 1:192 Collector, Hobby, Retail (90 Total Cards – 1 per card artwork)
- Sketch Card – 1:262 Blaster, 1:261 Hobby/Retail (49 Artists)
- Shaped Sketch – 1:79 – Collector (49 Artists)
- Double Artist Panoramic Sketch – 1:395 – Collector (?? Artists)
- Loaded Sketch – 1:71 – Blaster Box (49 Artists)
- Panoramic Sketch Cards – 1:538 – Jumbo Retail (49 Artists)
2017S2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands Retail Odds
With the official release day of 10/18, cards for the next retail series, 2017S2 Garbage Pail Kids Battle of the Bands, have begun showing up. Thanks to Clint Coleman of GPK & Wacky Warehouse for sending along pictures of the first packs he’s been able to open. Odds for all retail pack types are below; Blaster, Jumbo Retail, Gravity, and regular Retail. We posted odds on the Retail Blasters a couple of weeks ago thanks to Topps display at NYCC. We can now confirm those are indeed the odds on Blaster packs/boxes. As usual the Jumbo odds look to be 1/2 of the retail packs. Jumbo packs contains 22 cards, plus 2 Classic Rock insert cards. Topps considers those as 2 packs of retail, therefore the odds are 1/2 of what a normal retail pack in.
Based on early results it appears production is up for Battle of the Bands. In the coming days I will post articles looking at productions numbers, but comparing retail this set to retail from Adam-Geddon it looks to be higher. Of course we need to see odds from Hobby/Collector packs and the remaining Retail to make a determination. After seeing the first breaks, I am now beginning to think the odds on the parallels are overstated by double. I’ll have more on this in the coming days with some articles going over production numbers.
2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Blaster Pack/Box Odds
- Fools Gold 1:98
- Printing Plate 1:1235
- Artist Autograph 1:192
- Regular Sketch 1:262
- Loaded Puzzle Sketch 1:71 (Blaster Boxes)
2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Jumbo Retail Pack Odds
- Fools Gold 1:49
- Printing Plate 1:610
- Artist Autograph 1:96
- Regular Sketch 1:131
- Panoramic Sketch 1:548
2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Gravity Feed Pack Odds
- Phlegm 1:8
- Fools Gold 1:98
- Printing Plate 1:1234
- Artist Autograph 1:192
- Regular Sketch 1:261
2017S2 GPK Battle of the Bands Retail Pack Odds
- Fools Gold 1:98
- Printing Plate 1:1234
- Artist Autograph 1:192
- Regular Sketch 1:261
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