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How Many 2016 GPK Apple Pie Cards Were Produced? Part 2

Posted on January 26, 2016 by Jeff

This is Part 2 of a two part series on the production of 2016 GPK Apple Pie. If you missed Part 1 you can go here to catch up.

In the first post we looked at how many packs/boxes/cases were produced of 2016 Garbage Pail Kids As American as Apple Pie In Your Face. Here’s a review of what we came up with.

Total Production – 484,000 Packs
Hobby – 39,000 Hobby Packs or 1625 Hobby boxes or 203 Hobby Cases
Collector – 36,500 Collector Packs or 1520 Hobby Boxes or 190 Collector Cases
Retail – 408,500 Retail Packs
- Jumbo Retail – 40,100 Jumbo Packs
- Blaster Boxes – 68,000 Blaster Packs or 17,000 Blaster Boxes

I’ll be using these numbers to try to come up with an idea how many of each type of parallel and insert were created for the set. This will give you a good idea how rare a set is and how quickly you need to snap up that card for your rainbow! I’ll also compare some of this info to the 30th and previous sets for reference. As a reminder in addition to using the sell sheet and odds, we will also have to make some assumptions and flat out guesses when trying to figure some of these out.

So how many of each type of card was made? We can’t figured it out for every type of insert or parallel. Some card types we don’t have enough information. Other times however, Topps is nice enough to tell us exactly how many of a card was produced. In fact Topps almost went out of their way to help us this time around. For the first time in a regular set Topps decided to number multiple parallel and insert types. This has been great news for collectors who have been asking for this for quite some time. This means we already know most of the parallel and insert numbers already! Makes this post a lot easier! We know Spit /99, Bloody /75, and Gold Dust /50 for the parallels, and Relics /99, Patches /50, Autos /25 for the insert sets! Thanks to Topps saying on the sell sheet directly we also know total sketches; Regular (2000), Die-cut (500), Panoramic (100), Loaded (250), and Duel Artist (100).

Still there are some things we just can’t determine. Although with this set that number is very low. First off, the Pee Borders, we don’t have enough information to figure out how many of the retail packs were gravity packs. Since we don’t know the number of packs its impossible to determine how many of each Pee border was produced. Although compared to the Poop Border from the last series the odds are easier, and are falling at a greater rate. For this same reason we also can not figure out the print run of the Adam Bomb/Adam Boom special Blister cards. Again, because there is nothing to differentiate this retail pack from regular retail packs, we don’t have enough info. That’s really it! This is the most forthcoming Topps has been with information. I hope this trend continues.

Let’s discuss what we can figure out.

I want to start with the Bloody Borders, even we though we know how many were made. Because those are only found in Collector packs, that is one card type we can use to figure out print run. You notice I didn’t use it in Part 1, and here’s why. Let’s look at how many Collector Packs were created based on Bloody borders. 220 cards X 75 made per card = 16,500 total Bloody Borders X 3 odds = 49,500 total Collector packs. Whoa! Wait a minute….that can’t be right? Previously we used Patches, Relics, and Duel Artist Sketches and came up with 36,500 packs. So, why the difference? Here’s my thoughts on this, while busting my collector’s case, and in talking with other collectors, I realized these are falling at a much higher rate than the odds state. On average collectors are actually pulling 11 Bloody Borders per box, instead of the 8 they should be pulling. This is a 27.2% increase in pull rate. If we apply that same 27.2% increase to the number of packs we get 46,428 total Collector packs. We are still off by 3000, so its not perfect. But I do think this it explains why the odds don’t match for the Bloody borders. It makes sense, the new set was under ordered, so Topps printed less Collector packs than they anticipated. However, they decided to still include all the Bloody borders. While they would easily spread out the Spit and Gold Dust borders to other pack types, so its not as noticeable.

Now lets figure out how many cards were made of the other parallels and insert sets.

Bruised Borders – 36,500 Collector packs X 1 Odds (Doh) – 36,500 total Bruised borders / 220 cards in set = 165 per card.
Puke Borders – 408,500 Retail packs X 1 Odds (Doh) – 408,500 total Puke borders / 220 cards in set = 1,856 per card.
Comic Covers/Horror (Same info applies separately for each insert set) – 36,500 Collector packs + 39,000 Hobby packs = 75,500 total packs / 24 Odds = 3,145 total cards / 8 cards in set = 393 of each card made.
Classic Patriots – 40,100 Jumbo packs X 2 cards per pack = 80,200 total cards / 18 cards in set = 4,455 per card.
Gross Bears/Bathroom Buddies (Same info applies separately for each insert set) – 17,000 Blaster Boxes / 2 different types – 8,500 Blaster boxes each x 3 cards per box = 25,500 total cards / 6 cards in set = 4,250 per card of each type.

How does this compare to the 30th set? For the Comic Covers and Horror stickers almost the same as Foreign Legion. The Foreign Legion set was larger at 10, so it works out to almost the same number. Green borders are down quite a lot compared to the 30th set, but it makes sense since production was down overall. Even though Bruised borders are not numbered they are still quite limited. Finally, we’ve never been able to figure out retail bonus cards before, but thanks to exclusive sketches found in Jumbo/Blaster packs we can. And the numbers show its a lot! You should have no problem putting together your cherished Bathroom Buddies insert set!

There is another thing I found interesting when looking at the numbers. For the first time Topps really pumped up Collector boxes when it comes to printing plates and autos. Previously, Topps kept plate odds the same throughout all pack types. Because retail is 80% of the print run that meant most of the plates were in retail packs, sitting on shelves, not being opened. With the 2016 set however, Topps increased the plates odds for Collector packs, while leaving Retail/Hobby almost the same odds as the 30th set. We know Topps inserted 440 plates into the production, therefore we can figure out how many plates are in each pack type.

Collector Plates – 36,500 packs / 241 odds = 151 plates in Collector packs
Hobby Plates – 39,000 / 1,536 odds = 25 plates in Hobby packs
Retail Plates – 408,500 / 1,536 odds = 265 plates in Retail packs

The math looks close, that comes out to 441 total plates. There are only 190 Collector cases, so looking at the odds most of the cases will produce a plate. This is a big boom to collectors buying Collector boxes this time. This also will mean more plates should hit the market, a lot quicker than in previous sets, good for those collectors looking for their character. On the flip side, poor Hobby boxes. Topps gave Hobby the shaft with this release. Don’t except a plate when busting Hobby boxes. Topps did the same thing with artist autographs, the odds are much better in Collector packs than Hobby/Retail.

Collector Autos – 36,500 packs / 65 odds = 561 autos in Collector packs (That’s almost 3 autos per case!)
Hobby Autos – 39,000 packs / 200 odds = 195 autos in Hobby packs (Right around 1 per case.)
Retail Autos – 408,500 packs / 200 odds = 2042 autos in Retail packs (Good luck!)

When you really dig into the 2016 GPK Apple set numbers it appears Topps made it much more accessible for collectors to collect their favorite character or parallel set. Topps decided to shy away from those almost impossible sets, Silver, Pink, Sepia, etc. Topps also cut way back on the number of insert sets and even parallel sets in this release, something collectors have also been asking for. Only time will tell if this will increase purchases with GPK collectors, and more importantly will Topps continue a similar lineup in their next set.

Finally, can we figure out how many base cards were produced? Not really, but we can use what we know and give it our best guess! We know Collector packs have 4 base cards per pack, except for patch and relic packs, but that number is so small we will go with 4. Hobby packs have 9 or 10 base cards per pack this time around. When you account for inserts and parallels, I think we can use 9.5 base cards per Hobby pack. Retail packs have 9 cards per pack, except for packs containing gold dust, autos, sketches, and plates, but again that number is so small I’m going to go with 9 per pack.

Base Cards – (36,500 Collector packs X 4 cards per pack) + (39,000 Hobby packs X 9.5 cards per pack) + (408,500 Retail packs X 9 cards per pack) = 4,193,000 Total Base Cards produced / 220 cards per set = 19,059 Total of each base card.

Hurry get your base set now before they disappear!!!

This is Part 2 of a two part series on the production of 2016 GPK Apple Pie. If you missed Part 1 you can go here to catch up.

How Many 2016 GPK Apple Pie Cards Were Produced? Part 1

Posted on January 22, 2016 by Jeff

This is Part 1 of a two part series on the production of 2016 Garbage Pail Kids Apple Pie. Part 2 can be found here.

The 30th Anniversary Garbage Pail Kids set was highly anticipated from collectors. Topps saw the demand and produced a healthy amount of cards to go around. With the release of the 2016 GPK Apple Pie set would Topps follow suit, or change things around? We already know some of this information. Topps, while deciding to keep the large base set, completely changed the way parallels are done. They even started putting production numbers on many of the parallel sets. However, there is still a lot of information we can get by looking at sell sheet data, and pack odds.

First my disclaimer! Production numbers are never an exact science, and Topps makes it tough on us. In order to attempt to solve this riddle we need to look very closely at the clues in both the odds and the sell sheets. Some things to keep in mind for this post. 1) Topps doesn’t want the public to know exactly how much of each card was made. Why? No idea really, I think its dumb, but historically Topps only provides enough information to get close. 2) We need to make some assumptions. Those assumptions will be based on the clues we have, but still some guessing has to happen. 3) The odds never quite seem to come out completely equal. However we can round and get pretty close to how much was produced. 4) Topps changes what is printed from what the sell sheet says all the time. This will throw off all our numbers. 5) Keep in mind Topps historically holds back 5% of the print run to cover missing hits, damaged cards, and their No Purchase Necessary program. These numbers would include that 5%. With all that in mind let’s get started…(Warning lots of math coming up. If you don’t want to hear about the process, skip to the bottom for the answer sheet!)

First we need to figure out how many packs were made for the entire print run. In order to do that we can only use a card type where the odds are exactly the same in Hobby, Collector, and Retail packs. This year there is only one type of card where that is the case, Gold Dust borders, at 1:44. In the past Topps would also keep Printing Plate odds the same throughout production, but they threw a bone to Collector packs this set, more on that in Part 2. Here’s what we know, there are 220 cards in the set. Gold Dust cards are numbered on the back this year to /50. Therefore, 220 cards X 50 number of golds per card = 11,000 total Gold Dust cards X 44 Odds = 484,000 total packs made for the release. Here’s our first point where things could go wrong. There is only 1 type of card where the odds are the same throughout all pack types, so there isn’t another way to double check our numbers. Topps could have held more Gold borders back, or maybe the odds were printed wrong. As I mentioned above, we have to use what we have available. After completely going through the numbers I’m confident this is a good starting point and has to be close to what was produced.

Now let’s try to figure out how many of each pack type was created for this release. Collector packs are always the easiest to figure out because they always contain cards that are exclusively made for the set. There are three inserts that are exclusive to Collector boxes; Artist Relics, Patches, and Duel Artist Sketch Cards.

Artist Relics – 6 cards in set X 99 made per card = 594 total relics X 61 odds = 36,234 Collector packs made
Patch Cards – 10 cards in set X 50 made per card = 500 total patches X 73 odds = 36,500 Collector packs made
Duel Artist Sketches – 100 total sketches X 362 odds = 36,200 Collector packs made

As you can see really close numbers. Why don’t they match? Well, who knows really? Like I mentioned, the odds are never all exact, could be some rounding on Topps part. But the fact that all three are less than 300 packs apart, I think we have a good idea how many Collector packs were made. I’m going to go with the 36,500 number for our purpose throughout the rest of the post.

Now lets move onto Hobby packs. We can figure out how many Hobby packs were made by looking at something that only Collector and Hobby packs have in common. We can use Die-cut sketches to figure out Hobby packs.

So 36,500 Collector packs / 144 odds = 253 Die cut sketches in Collector packs.
500 total die-cut sketches – 253 = 247 die-cut sketches in Hobby packs
247 X 158 odds = 39,026 total Hobby packs produced

Let’s call that an even 39,000 for Hobby packs. Now that we’ve figured out Hobby/Collector production, let’s work on retail. Previously we determined there were 484,000 total packs produced. So we could simply go 484,000 total packs – 36,500 Collector packs – 39,000 Hobby packs = 408,500 total Retail packs produces. We can check our math by using another card type that is in both Hobby/Collector and Retail, the Artist Autographs. How many autos are there? 110 cards in set X 25 autos per card = 2750 total autos. Let’s see how the individual odds break that down with our pack totals we previously figured out.

36,500 Collector packs / 65 Odds = 561 autos in Collector packs
39,000 Hobby packs / 200 Odds = 195 autos in Hobby packs
2750 total autos – 561 Collector autos – 195 Hobby autos = 1994 autos in Retail packs
1994 Retail autos X 200 odds = 398,800 Total retail packs.

398,800 and 408,500 are pretty close considering the large number of packs. This is one of the reasons why I’m confident we are on the right track with the production numbers for the set. I’m going to go with 408,500 total Retail packs as the number we use going forward.

Usually I’d be happy just getting these numbers. In the past its been impossible to figure out how many different types of retail packs; gravity, retail, blaster, jumbo, blister, etc. Topps produces. However, this time Topps did something interesting. They added a different type of sketch into Blaster boxes, and Jumbo packs. Therefore, we are able to determine for the first time how many Jumbo and Blaster packs were produced.

100 total Panoramic Sketches X 401 odds = 40,100 total Jumbo packs produced.
250 total Loaded Sketches x 68 odds = 17,000 total Blaster boxes X 4 packs per box = 68,000 total Blaster packs produced.

That’s going to leave us with…

408,500 total retail packs – 80,200 Jumbo pack equivalent (Topps considers Jumbo packs as 2 packs in the odds, so we need to double this number as the total retail pack numbers represents total 10 card packs.) = 328,300 – 68,000 Blaster packs = 260,300 Retail packs left. Unfortunately, we can’t breakdown the retail packs any further. The 260,300 represents Gravity feed, Regular Retail, and Blister packs. There is just not enough information in the odds or sell sheets to go any further.

Here’s the bottom line. I’m pretty confident that these numbers are close. Here is what I believe to be the production for each type of pack:

Total Production – 484,000 Packs
Hobby – 39,000 Hobby Packs or 1625 Hobby boxes or 203 Hobby Cases
Collector – 36,500 Collector Packs or 1520 Hobby Boxes or 190 Collector Cases
Retail – 408,500 Retail Packs
- Jumbo Retail – 40,100 Jumbo Packs
- Blaster Boxes – 68,000 Blaster Packs or 17,000 Blaster Boxes

(Once again my numbers could be off. We had to make some assumptions and trust the sell sheets and odds. But I’m confident these numbers are really close.)

So what does this all mean? What stands out to me as surprising or interesting after running the numbers? First off, WOW!, they print a whole lot of retail product. There is almost the same number of Blaster packs as Hobby and Collector combined! More Jumbo packs than either Hobby or Collector packs. There is going to be retail on store shelves for months.

The other thing that stood out to me right away is production is down compared to the 30th set. In fact its down quite a bit. Let’s compare the two looking back at the numbers we figured out for the 30th set:

Total Pack Production: 30th – 669,000 packs \ Apple Pie – 484,000 packs (27.7% decrease in production)
Hobby Pack Production: 30th – 51,000 packs \ Apple Pie – 39,000 packs (23.5% decrease in production)
Collector Pack Production: 30th – 41,000 packs \ Apple Pie – 36,500 packs (11.0% decrease in production)
Retail Pack Production: 30th 577,000 packs \ Apple Pie – 408,500 packs (29.2% decrease in production)

Topps prints to order their product. Which means based on distributor pre-orders Topps decides how much product to produce. Its obvious the demand isn’t the same for the new set compared to the 30th set. This gives you a good idea how much, almost a 30% decline in production. Something interesting however, Collector production only fell by 11%, its clear collectors enjoy busting collector packs. Its also clear collectors don’t want Hobby boxes. Since the debut of Collector boxes, Topps has made Hobby box odds almost similar to Retail odds, and collectors are responding. One other thing to wonder, did the large decrease in retail orders cause Topps to increase the inserts and hits in retail product this year?

All fun stuff to think about as you bust into those new packs! Let me know your thoughts on the numbers in the comments!

This is Part 1 of a two part series on the production of 2016 Garbage Pail Kids Apple Pie. In Part 2 we will look at production numbers for all parallel and insert sets. Part 2 can be found here.

2016 Garbage Pail Kids Apple Pie Explained

Posted on January 21, 2016 by Jeff

After a successful 30th Anniversary set, Topps took a 6 month break before offering collectors a new set. With the release of 2016 Garbage Pail Kids As American As Apple Pie In Your Face, Topps kept some changes they made with the 30th set, while at the same time completely changing the way other aspects of the release is handled. Returning once again is the large 220 base card set, broken into different subsets with card numbers on the backs. Topps decided to completely revamp the parallels not only in look and name, but also numbering many parallels on the cards backs for the first time in a regular GPK set. Familiar inserts and “hits” also return to the series. Topps also decided not to print checklist card backs for this set. Topps did release a checklist which you can find here. Production is way down on this set compared to the 30th set. I’ll have a couple of articles breaking down production numbers in the coming days. For now here is what you can find in 2016 GPK Apple Pie!

(Note: I will continue to update this post as new information comes to light and any new parallels/inserts are found.)

Base Set – 220 total cards made up of 9 different subsets.
- As American As Apple Pie (42a/b – 84 Total Cards)
- 2016 Presidential Candidate (5a/b – 10 Total Cards)
- Americana Devolved (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- US Historical Events (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- American Icons (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- American Inventors (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- America’s Pastimes (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- Americana Sweep Under the Rug (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- US Summer Olya-Picks (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)

Parallel Sets – Same exact cards from the Base set, except with a different speckled color border.
- Bruised Border (Dark Blue/Black) – 1:1 – Collector (220 Cards)
- Spit Border (Light Blue) /99 – 1:4 – Hobby/Collector (220 Cards)
- Bloody Nose Border (Red) /75 – 1:3 – Collector (220 Cards)
- Gold Dust Border (Gold) /50 – 1:44 – Retail/Hobby/Collector (220 Cards)
- Puke Border (Green) – 1:1 – Retail (220 Cards)
- Pee Border (Yellow) – 1:4 – Target Retail Gravity Feed (220 Cards)
- Printing Plates – 1:241 Collector, 1:1536 Hobby/Retail, 1:746 Retail Jumbo (440 Total Plates – 4 per card artwork)

Insert Sets – All the various insert subsets that can be found in packs.
- Comic Cover – 1:24 – Hobby/Collector (4a/b – 8 Total Cards)
- Horror Sticker – 1:24 – Hobby Collector (4a/b – 8 Total Cards)
- Classic Patriots – 2 Per Jumbo Retail (9a/b – 18 Total Cards)
- Gross Bears – 3 Per SE Blaster Box (1-5,1L – 6 Total Cards)
- Bathroom Buddies – 3 Per EA Blaster Box (3a/b – 6 Total Cards)
- Adam Bomb/Boom Americana – 2 Per Blister Pack (2a/b – 4 Total cards)
- Patch Card /50 – 1:73 – Collector (10 Total Cards)
- Artist Relics /99 – 1:61 – Collector (6 Total Cards)
- Artist Autograph /25 – 1:65 Collector, 1:200 Hobby/Retail (110 Total Cards – 1 per card artwork)
- Sketch Card – 1:266 – Retail (22 Artists/2000 Total Sketches)
- Die-Cut Sketch – 1:158 Hobby 1:144 – Collector (22 Artists/500 Total Sketches)
- Double Artist Panoramic Sketch – 1:362 – Collector (?? Artists/100 Total Sketches)
- Loaded Sketch – 1:68 – Blaster Box (?? Artists/250 Total Sketches)
- Panoramic Sketch Cards – 1:401 – Jumbo Retail (?? Artists/100 Total Sketches)

2016 GPK Apple Pie Blister Pack Odds

Posted on January 21, 2016 by Jeff

Just like the 30th Anniversary release Topps has created 3 pack Blister packs for the new 2016 GPK Apple Pie set. Blisters have been found so far at both Wal-mart and Toys R Us stores. In addition to getting 3 retail packs you get 2 special Adam Bomb/Boom cards. ~~There are 4 cards in the special subset each with two different backs. So overall, you’ll need to collect 8 cards to get them all.~~ Thanks to Randy Bagget for correcting my error. There are only 4 cards in the set, two with orange backs and two with yellow backs. Thanks to GPK collecter Adam for the pictures! Here are the odds:

Blister Pack Odds
Gold Dust 1:44
Printing Plate 1:1536
Artist Autograph 1:200
Sketch Card 1:266

specialbacks — Different Adam Bomb/Boom Backs

2016 GPK Apple Pie Hobby/Collector Odds

Posted on January 20, 2016 by Jeff

Release day is upon us! 2016 Garbage Pail Kids As American as Apple Pie In Your Face finally releases 1/20/16. Collector and Hobby boxes have begun shipping out to collectors, and pack odds are below. Thanks to GPK collector Ke We for the Collector box odds, and Mikee Friesen for the Hobby odds! At first glance the odds for printing plates and sketches seems to be much lower than in year’s past. One other important note many parallels, autographs, patch, and relics are numbered for the first time in a regular GPK release. Previously, Topps only numbered parallels in the Chrome sets.

Collector Pack Odds
Spit 1:4
Bloddy Nose 1:3
Gold Dust 1:44
Printing Plate 1:241
Artist Autograph 1:65
Comic Cover 1:24
Horror Sticker 1:24
Shaped Sketch 1:144
Double Artist Panoramic Sketch 1:362
Patch Card 1:73
Artist Relic 1:61

Hobby Pack Odds
Spit 1:4
Gold Dust 1:44
Printing Plate 1:1536
Artist Autograph 1:200
Comic Cover 1:24
Horror Sticker 1:24
Shaped Sketch 1:158

2016 GPK Apple Pie Blaster Box Odds

Posted on January 18, 2016 by Jeff

Blaster boxes begin showing up in the wild today. Thanks to collectors GPK Joe and Matt Steffens for the picture and info on odds. Below are the odds on the side of the boxes. As usual it appears the odds are the same as retail packs. The notable exception are the odds for the Loaded Sketches, which for this set are exclusive to Blaster Boxes.

Blaster Box Odds per pack
Gold Dust 1:44
Printing Plate 1:1536
Artist Autograph 1:200
Sketch Card 1:266
Blaster Box Odds per box
Loaded Puzzle Sketch Card 1:68

2016 GPK Apple Pie Retail Gravity Feed Odds

Posted on January 15, 2016 by Jeff

Thanks to eBay member allproductssoldhere for sending along the odds for the 2016 GPK Apple Pie Retail Gravity Feed packs. More odds to come as they filter in.

Retail Gravity Feed Pack Odds
Pee Parallel 1:4
Gold Dust 1:44
Printing Plate 1:1536
Artist Autograph 1:200
Sketch Card 1:266

2016 GPK Apple Pie Jumbo Retail Odds

Posted on January 15, 2016 by Jeff

Thanks to follow GPK collector Cory Z for sending us the Odds for 2016 GPK Apple Pie Jumbo Retail packs. Looks like these have started showing up in stores. More odds as we get them…

Jumbo Retail Pack Odds
Gold Dust 1:22
Printing Plate 1:746
Artist Autograph 1:100
Sketch Card 1:133
Panoramic Sketch Card 1:401

Sell Sheet for 2016 Garbage Pail Kids Apple Pie Set

Posted on September 1, 2015 by Jeff

The sell sheet is out for Topps’s 2016 Garbage Pail Kids American as Apple Pie In Your Face set. Here’s a link to the PDF version, or you can scroll down. Some highlights I noticed:

Autographs look to be returning to the old way. Each card in the base set with an on card auto. However sell sheet says only 110 cards autographed. So maybe only the “A” cards will be auto’d. Each one limited to 25.
Sell Sheet says 440 Printing Plates? Again it looks like they are only going to do the “A” name for plates similar to the 30th set.
Parallels – Bruised (1 per Collector Pack) Black & Blue splats on border, Spit Splatter (Hobby /99) are Blue splats on border, and Bloody Nose (Collector /75) are red splats on border, Gold Dust (Found all packs /50).
“Bonus” sets return to 8 card sets. Comic Covers and Horror, one per box Hobby/Collector.
Duel Artist Panoramic Sketch cards! Two artists doing one card, interesting.
6 card Relic set limited to /99 of each. Patch card set remains at 10 but /50 this time.

GPK 30th Production Part 2

Posted on July 25, 2015 by Jeff

This is Part 2 of a study on how large the print run was in the Garbage Pail Kids 30th Anniversary set. If you missed part 1 you can go here to get caught up.

In the first article, based on information from the odds and sell sheets, I wrote about how many packs/boxes/cases were made for Hobby/Collector/Retail for the GPK 30th set.

We have 577,000 Retail Packs + 51,000 Hobby Packs + 41,000 Collector Packs = 669,000 Packs.

I’ll be using those numbers to attempt to figure how how many of each card/parallel were made. This can give you a good idea how tough a set will be to put together or how rare that last card you need for your rainbow is! As a reminder I had to use some educated guesswork and assumptions to come to these numbers. But I’m pretty sure we are in the ballpark.

So how many of each card was made? We aren’t able to answer this for all cards. Some of this is easy, Topps gave away this information on the sell sheet! According to the sell sheet there are 384 Italian Stamp Relics, 500 Die-Cut sketches, 19 Pen Relics, 15 total Triple Autos, 40 total Duel Autos, etc.

Other card types are impossible to figure out because not enough information is provided. For example on the retail side its not possible to determine how many Wal-Mart Blue parallels there are, or how many Poop-allels there are. While we know how many retail packs were made, we don’t know the break down between Gravity Feeds, Blasters, Jumbo, regular retail boxes, and Wal-Mart packs. We can only figure out print runs for things that have the same odds across all pack types or items in Hobby/Collector boxes.

Let’s start with Collector Boxes. The Collector Box inserts are easy to figure out:

Medallions: 41,000 Packs / 92 Odds = 445 total medallions / 6 = 75 of each medallion made. So at most only 75 collectors will have a set of these.

Barf Bags: 1708 Boxes / 1 per box (duh!) = 1708 total Barf Bags / 10 = 170 of each bag made.

Artist Relics: 41,000 Packs / 28 Odds = 1464 total relics / 4 or 5 (Its tough here because there are no odds for the “celebrity relic” so is it already part of the relic odds or is it separate? We don’t know.) = 366 or 292 of each relic depending on if Goldburg is included in the odds.

Loaded Sketch Cards: 41,000 Packs / 831 Odds = 49 Total Loaded Sketches

Let’s get Hobby boxes into the mix here as well. How many of the popular Foreign Legion cards are there?

Foreign Legion: 92,000 total packs / 24 odds = 3833 Total Foreign Legion cards / 10 = 383 of each Foreign Legion card made.

Now let’s grab all the odds and see how many parallel cards and the common inserts were made. Remember due to Topps confusing wording on packs, listed pack odds are actually 1/2 of what’s printed. I’ll be using the real odds in my numbers below. Also note when looking at these, the sell sheet says there are 85 copies of each Gold Border card.

Sepia/Pink Border Cards: 41,000 packs / 24 odds = 1708 total / 220 = 8 of each card made, and that’s with me rounding up! I know this number is hard to believe, but unless Topps is completely lying on the odds for Collector boxes there are just not that many of these to be had. Get yours when you see it!

Red/Character Back Card: 41,000 packs / 1 odds = 41,000 total / 220 = 186 of each card made.

Silver Border Card: 92,000 packs / 24 odds = 3833 total / 220 = 17 of each Silver border made.

Green Border Card: 577,000 Packs / 1 = 577,000 total / 220 = 2622 of each Green Border

Black Border: 669,000 Packs / 2 = 334,500 total / 220 = 1520 of each Black border

Famous Movie Scene: 669,000 Packs / 4 odds = 167,250 total / 15 = 11,150 of each

Horror Film: 669,000 Packs / 8 odds = 83,625 / 5 = 16,725 of each

Super Fan Tattoo: 669,000 Packs / 12 odds = 55,750 / 5 = 11,150 of each

Interesting numbers I think. I was shocked to see how some of the numbers came out. Now don’t take these numbers as gospel because like I’ve stated some guesswork and assumptions had to be used. But I think these general numbers are close to what’s really out there. I’d love to hear your comments on the numbers, and the method I used. If I’m off anywhere please let me know!

Finally, can we figure out how man base cards were made? Not exactly, but I’ll make a guess. Collector packs have 3 base cards, unless a thick card is in the pack. Hobby/Retail have 8 or 9 base cards depending on number of inserts in the pack. Because of this, even using my rounded guesswork numbers its still not really possible. Let’s see what we come up with anyway. I’m going to use 8.75 base cards per Hobby/Retail pack and 3 base cards per Collector pack for my numbers.

Base Cards: 41,000 Collector Packs x 3 cards per pack = 123,000 Base + (628,000 Hobby/Retail packs x 8.75 cards per pack) = 5,618,000 Base / 220 = Approx. 25,536 of each base card made.

Plenty of sets to go around!